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PvP/RP videos - shard advertising

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:02 pm
by Iktomi
This is just to split the videos creativity thread and the discussions about the shard's direction (if anyone is interested in continuing that discussion). I'll be purging the videos thread and placing it here.

Re: PvP/RP videos - shard advertising

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:02 pm
by Iktomi
Kat Asherstone wrote:So we're now going to be advertising PvP "over" RP on an RP server... and one more step is taken towards Russian PK

Re: PvP/RP videos - shard advertising

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:03 pm
by Iktomi
Cirius Do'Brim wrote:So make your own RP videos then. I'm sure Ares will be happy to publish them.

Derp.

Re: PvP/RP videos - shard advertising

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:03 pm
by Iktomi
Kat Asherstone wrote:
Ares wrote:
Ares wrote: If anyone has some *PvM or RP videos, that'd be great too. From an event maybe. Good work Johnny!
No one records the PvM stuff because it's not "cool" which is why we're this close to Russian PK... if players thought that the events and PvM were cool, they'd record it and this wouldn't be an issue... this is just proof that the player base is all about the PK.
I mean we don't even have the video of players killing the wanderer of the void on the website... but it's on youtubes
Why is that? because the server wants MORE PvP

Every idea that comes up on the boards is almost always going to be hit with "but that would ruin PvP" because the majority of the player base care more about the PvP than the PvM or the RP

Re: PvP/RP videos - shard advertising

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:07 pm
by Iktomi
Kat Asherstone wrote:
Johnny Walac wrote:
Pangaea Website wrote:A good combination of RP and PvP, giving everyone a chance to do their favourite thing.
Yeah read the forum for 10 minutes and it's pretty clear that "Good combination" doesn't even begin to describe the lopsided nature of the server towards PvP

How many threads get locked cause of people getting into "religious" arguments about who killed who or used a mean tactic, shit there's a thread RIGHT NOW about the whole "do we have to roleplay before attacking".
Don't try and say it's a "Good combination" that's the goal, not the current status.
Anyone that denies that, if they are honest with themselves and everyone else, is someone that goes for PvP over RP.

Re: PvP/RP videos - shard advertising

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:07 pm
by Iktomi
Glarundis wrote:i must say i have to agree with kat, even though i like pvp.
we all know the combination is not balanced, and the status of rp has taken a huge hit in the past years.
anyone knows that, and we don't really have to conceal it. it's better just to admit that the rp quantity is less (i'm not saying ppl are bad roleplayers, or that the quality is worse now, i just think that there's not an atmosphere of rp anymore)

Re: PvP/RP videos - shard advertising

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:08 pm
by Iktomi
Cruxis Bane wrote:Kat I would say people make videos of hunts and events (or atleast pics) however hunts have a potential to go badly and where in pvp you can just cut the parts where the other side is winning out you cant really cut out part of a hunt without confusing people.

Re: PvP/RP videos - shard advertising

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:08 pm
by Iktomi
Kat Asherstone wrote:
Cruxis Bane wrote:Kat I would say people make videos of hunts and events (or atleast pics) however hunts have a potential to go badly and where in pvp you can just cut the parts where the other side is winning out you cant really cut out part of a hunt without confusing people.
You shouldn't want to cut out the failures in either situation when we're talking about videos for the website... new players HAVE to know what they are getting themselves into. They NEED to know that on Pang, we don't mess around in terms of "difficulty curve" and so cutting out failures in PvM is even worse than it just being disjointed, it doesn't show the harsh reality that is Pang.
The "PvP" videos we showcase should include videos of
"How to properly Rob someone on Pang" or "How to Properly Assasinate a target"

videos that have actual value to other players other than "this is me killinz"

Re: PvP/RP videos - shard advertising

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:09 pm
by Iktomi
Cruxis Bane wrote:I doubt that the ones that made these videos intended them for the website necessarily but just meant them to show some pvp videos.

Re: PvP/RP videos - shard advertising

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:10 pm
by Iktomi
Cirius Do'Brim wrote:Like it or not, PvP gets people online.
Like it or not, all the biggest UO shards are PvP shards.

So yes, I would say PvP is a much better player magnet than RP or PvM.