Veritas/Malleus/Keening mana consumption

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Boost the mana consumption?

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Darian Darkmind
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Re: Veritas/Malleus/Keening mana consumption

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You should ask yourself one question: Why do people spam so much veritas/malleus/keening instead of melee?

The answer is easy: It's better.

Now, what should we do to make melee more tempting over veritas?

The answer is easy, again: Nerf the rituals

When is it nerfed enough?

The answer: When melee becomes the main source of damage.

I know, it annoys to lose something you've relied on for 10 years, but like I said even if one tool is removed, you still have other tools (MELEE!) which can ultimately do the same thing: Kill your enemy.
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Darian Darkmind wrote:You should ask yourself one question: Why do people spam so much veritas/malleus/keening instead of melee?

The answer is easy: It's better.

Now, what should we do to make melee more tempting over veritas?

The answer is easy, again: Nerf the rituals

When is it nerfed enough?

The answer: When melee becomes the main source of damage.

I know, it annoys to lose something you've relied on for 10 years, but like I said even if one tool is removed, you still have other tools (MELEE!) which can ultimately do the same thing: Kill your enemy.
When they are nerfed, nerf them for all, take away imp and law aura and all gets nerf. Boost veritas mana usage to 100 and ask yourself - why the heck does the rite exist?
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Re: Veritas/Malleus/Keening mana consumption

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I don't see how the law aura or imperial manastone (btw which isn't aura) is more profitable compared to nature and teks after the mana boost than they are now?
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Darian Darkmind wrote:•Veritas mana consumption from 35 to 100
•Malleus mana consumption from 10 to 50
•Keening mana consumptions from 10 to 50
boost damage x1.5/2 and sure.
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So if Keening does up to 120dmg per cast - how is it less powerful than now?

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This change is a step into the right direction. Go for it.
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Re: Veritas/Malleus/Keening mana consumption

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Biggs wrote:
Darian Darkmind wrote:•Veritas mana consumption from 35 to 100
•Malleus mana consumption from 10 to 50
•Keening mana consumptions from 10 to 50
boost damage x1.5/2 and sure.
Like Boris said, if we boost the damage it changes nothing. A keening with 120 points of damage? Are you on crack?

The point is to make MELEE the "common" fight method. Rituals are here to back us up, help us in TOUGH situations or in cases where melee just won't do it. Say we kill one Law guy and they need a second to calm things down. Elya uses Life wand on the dead guy and they all press Veritas macro the same time. It takes 100 mana from them, they can't cast it again, but they get their few second's window when all of us have to run out. During this time their friend is able to loot his gear, hopefully hop on his mount and run away.

It won't make it 100% guaranteed safe spot, but the thing is it shouldn't be a guaranteed safe spot! It just gives a nice way to calm things down ONCE when it gets out of control.
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Post by Quintoz »

Jorgen, either you nerf mana consumption or damage. If a rite does little to no damage you wont use it but with a higher mana consumption you still might toss it out in a good spot.

So I agree with this change.

Edit : Is it possible to take down the mana cost of making steeds for knights/rangers? ;D
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Post by Raphael »

Imo just leave everything how it is, its been this way for years and hasn't made the Veritas casters any more powerful. Since my time at pang i've always saw Tekstone win the majority of fights due to their Great teamwork so nerfing these rites would make them the strongest by far because they've been without a good pvp rite for like 8 years and had to deal with it.
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Perhaps it's time for Law to also win due to great teamwork and not just Malleus/Veritas spamming?
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