Remove the Ratman relic hunt from Despise 3?

[Ares]

Arguments for and against are welcome.

[Simmo]

Id suggest removing giant rock spiders also from level 1. Its still a newbie dungeon and those drop greater poison.
Im for removing the relic also, i remember it being pain in the ass searching for it.

[dwight]

I voted remove it because it's a pain all the time someone needs a ress and the door is closed.


Maybe the relic could exist because the idea its cool, but not for opening the door.

Idea: When you deliver the relic to the boss of 1st level, it will spawn a big rat with special loot or something

[Zaradon]

drop greater poison.

1. They dont loot.
2. There's a shrine in lvl 1.

[Bestia Domare]

interesting.. im wondering what are the reasons for wanting this removed?

i say keep it because...
- its a neat step in progressing to lvl 3.
- its fun to find it, and pretty easy
- you shouldn't be able to just run straight into lvl 3 (this goes for any dungeon)
- the door stays open a long time
- promotes hunting parties for newbs
- there is usually some vets there in training tactics and whatnot if things get hairy but even without this, its fine
and
- NO ONE WOULD EVER HUNT LVL 1 if this is removed

if we start making things too easy this game wouldnt be as fun.
if it absolutely needs a change id say make that shrine at the entrance to lvl 3 res you, and put a water barrel there.. but thats all

[Jyrgen]

The real problem with that relic system is that if you die in lvl3, and the door has closed already, you're pretty fucked if you can't find the relic in time.

[Hilda]

drop greater poison.

1. They dont loot.
2. There's a shrine in lvl 1.

1. It's a newbie dungeon
2. There are monsters on the way back

[Bestia Domare]

ive died plenty of times and find that the door stays open for a long time. sure once in a while it closes but most cases something loots you and you can hack your way back to it.

if this is the issue just replace that crystal ball shrine with a healing shrine, no need to remove the relic system from the game, im surprise by the number of yes votes

edit: also i agree with zaradon

[Floid]

The biggest problem isn't the dying, but rather when someone decides its a good thing to get the relic and take it home. Or when it just doesn't spawn and you get stuck killing lvl1 for ages and not finding it. Kind of frustrating that. Anyhow I'd say maybe replacing the relic with something else to be able to go down to lvl3?

Or making the relic system a bit less buggy if that's even possible - oh yes and not being able to take the relic out of the dungeon.

[Kent Strider]

The real problem with that relic system is that if you die in lvl3, and the door has closed already, you're pretty fucked if you can't find the relic in time.

Had this happen to a friend of mine before.