Potential policy change re: restoring characters

[Mike]

Keep it simple.
If you nuked your own account, it's your problem.
If it was deleted due to inactivity, the possibility of restoring may exist.

I think this is a good way to go, if a player can motivate why it would be good for the server to restore his characters that were deleted due to inactivity.

[Basil Brotheamus]

I can't recall any lost cases due to starting all over again.

- Boris

I can.

[Jyrgen]

You get them regardless of starting over again.

Most of us aren't that young anymore to have unlimited time to macro. And if you've played here once before, you probably ain't going to get the kicks from killing orcs or ogres anyway.

[Cyrus Tegyr]

Simply put, if you quit cause you nerd raged out, it's your problem. I don't see why the gms and admins have to babysit every little thing, it wasn't like an accidental deletion by the gms/admins, there wasn't gm/admin abuse that caused characters to be deleted.

Even restorations from deletions for inactivity I disagree with, simply put, if you can be bothered to log in and keep your account semi active OR more importantly you have found something else to occupy your time, then take that as a blessing and when you return, enjoy the game by rediscovering what you may have forgotten or what is new.

GMs/Admins SHOULDN"T have to babysit every little thing, especially when it comes to someone nerd rage quitting, at some point people need to be responsible for their own actions. If there is no accountability for someone when they delete their characters in a fit of infantile behavior, I can see some abuses with this. Plus the implications that let's say you as the gms/admins restore Fred's account cause he had a hissy fit but didn't restore Bob's account for some reason or another, it'll cause more head aches as accusations of favoritism could be spread.

When you boil down everything, I say NO to this, accountability when it comes to character deletion, the person who is looking to get their things restored didn't have to delete his/her characters, it wasn't forced upon him/her and it surely was no accident. I say stick with the current rule on this matter, why change the rule now because someone nerd rage quit? Others have done that and there was no show of wanting to change this rule, it just doesn't make any sense to change it now, let the rule stand.

Keep in mind, it isn't as if Pangaea is a hard core shard, I know some of you think it is, but they actually allow us to macro our skills here while other shards do not allow for any macroing. It's simple, you don't have to do much of anything except hit a play button on two macros and watch Netflix, Hulu, a Blu-Ray, DVD, Video Tape, Betamax, 8mm film...Whatever technology you wish to choose, it's not difficult and as an old player it isn't as if you have to learn how to do things over again, unless like me when I returned I had been playing WoW for 6 years, then things are a bit weird. Free time isn't the issue here, you will either make time for something you enjoy playing or you won't, I don't think I would be very happy if we are restoring accounts left right and center for people who rage quit or because of inactivity when I had to start over again when I returned here.

[Johnny Walac]

If you nuke your account, it's your own fault. If it has been wiped due to inactivity, I'd say the same.

Agreed

I'll jump on the Swe train here and say, agreed.

[Ares]

The reason I don't mind it is that it's not a lot of work..

Come on, you've had a bad time lately, then one night have enough and delete your characters. 2-3 months later you regret it and ask if there's anything to do about it. It's a years worth of work.. It's not insignificant. And people make mistakes.

I'd rather do something like saying you can't get deleted characters back untill after 3 months or something. That still adds a penalty but forgives.

[Tyrion]

Agreed with Ares. We're not getting any new players these days, if Boris is right about old players coming back then that seems to be our best option for maintaining a player base. Don't poison the water.

[Jyrgen]

By the way, is there any really good reason for deleting chars from inactive accounts?

[Johnny Walac]

Why would anyone in his right mind delete years of work? Like why? Even if I decide to quit forever I would never delete it. Who knows what will happen IRL? Giving them the chance to get back the characters will only show that you accept that kinda behavior.

[Tyrion]

I would continue with the current policy.

It has been followed for over 5 years (both my and Alteran's time) and I see no reason to change it. Tens of players have come back and I've had them all starting from scratch again. Even tho' it wouldn't affect any of the current players, I just don't see it fair for everyone who have been denied in the past.

If you nuke your account, it's your own fault. If it has been wiped due to inactivity, I'd say the same.

- Boris

What is the current policy? Orin deleted his priest (when he was HP of Law) and within a few days had his character back IG. It's not much of a policy if it is only adhered too once and a while.