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Re: Salvation updates

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:23 pm
by Palma
*cricket cricket*

Re: Salvation updates

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:24 pm
by Johnny Walac
Thoeak got more MC's then Crin. I also want a free salvation if he gets it!
I also want all the MC's removed. I also want the salvation now!


And all this is justified because I feel regret over what I did.

Re: Salvation updates

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:27 pm
by Palma
Your murdercounts are recent. Mine ain't.
Nooby

Re: Salvation updates

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:28 pm
by Johnny Walac
Palma wrote:Your murdercounts are recent. Mine ain't.
Nooby
If we are talking 1000 days I don't have to pay for plenty of MC's. Is that fair? Thoeak not paying for MC's?
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

Re: Salvation updates

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:33 pm
by Palma
Bleh, you just don't want me on the enemy side!

Stop trolling. You know this is only fair

Re: Salvation updates

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:34 pm
by Johnny Walac
You are already on the enemy side. And you are not on the ally side with any char. Nothing to do with it.
They changed the salvation system already. And these threads keep coming up.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

Re: Salvation updates

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:38 pm
by Boris
Removal of all marks compared to removal of 0 marks - is a massive gain.

- Boris

Re: Salvation updates

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:42 pm
by Palma
They changed nothing. The marks can go to zero, but no one can pay for their salvations yet anyway.

And I did the crime when I could do the time. Now I can't because I don't have any items?

Re: Salvation updates

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:42 pm
by Darian Darkmind
Johnny Walac wrote:Thoeak got more MC's then Crin. I also want a free salvation if he gets it!
I also want all the MC's removed. I also want the salvation now!


And all this is justified because I feel regret over what I did.
It's not justified because your MCs are recent, like Palma said. If you felt regret, you would not kill anyone anymore. Once it's been 1000 days since your kill, you could have one for free if Law agrees. Of course if there's a 1000 day limit, a lot of your MCs would disappear just like hundreds of mine would as well.

Is that a bad thing? I don't think so because it punishes ACTIVE murderers more than people who might have killed hundreds of players five years ago, but haven't killed many anymore. Take Crin for example, it's compeltely unfair to punish him for the actions he has done during previous administration. Once Alteran took over, the shard changed and one could say this isn't the same game anymore. This is also why Alteran gave free salvations back then. However, even if they were free, the MCs weren't removed so if you killed one player, you were red again forced to pay millions for your past crimes.

Even if there's not a 1000 day decay limit, at least remove all MCs given BEFORE the item-wipe, before Alteran's time.

If we're completely fair we'd need to remove all MCs before full loot (or at least before armor/weapon loot). People got MCs out of "friendly" PvP and fun without the possibility of any profit! Now they have to PAY for those kills even though they gained nothing but little fun PvP-action out of it - the same fun the other side gained without the risk of MCs. The truth is there had to be reds, there had to be "good and evil" so people can PvP and have fun during Alteran's time, but because there was no profit to either side, there should be no punishment either.

Re: Salvation updates

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:46 pm
by Johnny Walac
Darian Darkmind wrote: If we're completely fair we'd need to remove all MCs before full loot (or at least before armor/weapon loot). People got MCs out of "friendly" PvP and fun without the possibility of any profit!

When I read that they "fixed" the salvation system I could only think of one thing.
The pussification of Pangaea has begun. Now you are just taking it to far Darian.