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Salvation updates

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:03 pm
by Palma
Thank you for the new salvation updates. They seem really nice, but I must ask... will anything be added?

Cause I didn't understand how these updates change the point that started this discussion:

"How will old players who return and have very old murder counts and no money, get blue?"

I myself still have the 4 mil problem to salvate my characters. I thought it was going to be added the "older then 1000 days murdercounts do not count for salvation"?

Re: Salvation updates

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:18 pm
by Gorath Blackmind
I havent killed anyone with my assa either for 1.5 years or so

Re: Salvation updates

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:28 pm
by Boris
It now works as planned. Nothing else will be added.

- Boris

Re: Salvation updates

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:16 am
by Palma
Law has considerable freedom with the Salvation rite now. That means that abuse (helping a buddy out for no RP reason etc), is severely punished. The player abusing it will be kicked from Law, turned red and recieve a mark on his account for metagaming. All use of the rite is now logged for the staff to see.
Does this mean Law can now judge those who have very old counts and got no money for a salvation, and salvate for free?

Re: Salvation updates

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:46 am
by Jyrgen
Don't think the free salvation part was changed... So no.

Re: Salvation updates

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:26 am
by Akkarrin
couldnt of just gone the whole hog and given us right to do it free :'(

one question, the bit about when MC's are paid for they go off of the counter, is that retroactive? e.g. Zabren (most recent trial i can think of :P) paid a fine of 90k for three murdercounts, can he still go red after one more MC and if he were to go red again does he still have to pay off the first three murdercount again?

EDIT: In other words if someone was salvated before have the salvated MC's been taken off ? and if not, why not?

Re: Salvation updates

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:40 am
by Monad
Akkarrin wrote:one question, the bit about when MC's are paid for they go off of the counter, is that retroactive? e.g. Zabren (most recent trial i can think of :P) paid a fine of 90k for three murdercounts, can he still go red after one more MC and if he were to go red again does he still have to pay off the first three murdercount again?

EDIT: In other words if someone was salvated before have the salvated MC's been taken off ? and if not, why not?
Ares wrote:- Murdercounts are removed when you are salvated so you won't have to pay for them twice.
Did you even read the updates?

Re: Salvation updates

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:00 am
by Simmo
Did you - yourself read the update/Akkarrins post rofl? Ares said MC are removed WHEN you are salvated. But this new system just got out, do we have to pay for the old marks we´ve payed already atm or i.e Palma has to pay Crins salva again that couple of millions (he already has payed for the marks).

Re: Salvation updates

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:10 am
by Monad
Well it clearly reads that when you are salvated your murdercounts are removed. We are not manually removing anyone's murdercounts.
So, when you are salvated after the update came in, the rite will remove your murdercounts. I don't know how to explain it any more simple way?

Re: Salvation updates

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:45 am
by Simmo
Monad wrote:Well it clearly reads that when you are salvated your murdercounts are removed. We are not manually removing anyone's murdercounts.
So, when you are salvated after the update came in, the rite will remove your murdercounts. I don't know how to explain it any more simple way?
I understand it and i pretty much asked you a yes/no question and you got no clue how to explain it more easier? :D lol
And Akkarrin asked "Why not?" (about the people who have already payed millions and marks still left, cant you remove em)