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Misuse of the word roleplay

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:23 am
by Maximilian Lhoth
Annoying. Some transcript from the legendary "Ultimate Nolife" film here:

GM Lolagi:
Now you stop that grinding, this is a roleplay shard, that's not at all roleplay! You have to roleplay here, roleplay roleplay roleplay!

Warru:
Grinding is not forbidden in the rules, who the f**king clown you are?

GM Lolagi:
I'm a gamemaster, I tell people to do stuff and when I say so they obey. You must go to the quest we advertized, you are the only warrior online!

Warru:
Your quests s**k, they have crappy prizes, I won't go!

- ZZAP -

King Gwen Gura: Welcome adventurers. I am king. I have a quest for everybody. There was the evil dragon that kidnapped...

Re: Misuse of the word roleplay

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:36 am
by Alteran
What did i miss ?.

Alteran

Re: Misuse of the word roleplay

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:56 am
by Maximilian Lhoth
Did not intend this to GM's / Admins (only), I think it's too common for people to consider roleplay to be this and that which it is not.

Roleplay doesn't have to be interesting or original. It is still roleplay.

I'm a boring guy, why can't my characters be boring?

(Hm, thinking of it, after all I'm not even the most boring of the players, and my characters aren't the most boring either!)

Anyway:

Roleplay does not need to involve:
1) talking
2) more than 1 character in the screen
3) being original
4) being interesting
5) writing stories to the forum
6) being 100% good
7) being 100% evil
8) being newbie-friendly or otherwise nice
9) being in a guild/religion
10) being located at Brit Bank 1

Re: Misuse of the word roleplay

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:52 am
by Houston
Lets say, if you dont fill those points you are not a "High class" roleplayer?


But yeh, something like that.

Re: Misuse of the word roleplay

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:55 am
by Quintoz
You don't have to talk, but it's easier to see a good rp'er when he's activly talking about relevent stuff.

Re: Misuse of the word roleplay

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:58 am
by Mike
Roleplay does not need to involve:
1) talking
Yes it does
2) more than 1 character in the screen
Yes it does
3) being original
Agreed
4) being interesting
Sucks if it's not
5) writing stories to the forum
Agreed
6) being 100% good
Agreed
7) being 100% evil
Agreed
8) being newbie-friendly or otherwise nice
Agreed
9) being in a guild/religion
Agreed
10) being located at Brit Bank 1
Agreed

Close, but you're not there yet.

Re: Misuse of the word roleplay

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:43 am
by Maximilian Lhoth
Mike wrote:Roleplay does not need to involve:
1) talking
Yes it does
2) more than 1 character in the screen
Yes it does
4) being interesting
Sucks if it's not
1 - You can even roleplay a total hermit or a mute person. Also you can roleplay a person that assassinates someone quickly without words, takes items and leaves. On Pangaea, the latest is illegal, but it is not illegal because it would not be good roleplay, it is illegal because it would overpower the robbers and make Pangaea a HC PvP shard. Just leave the word "roleplay" away when refering to these kinds of things and it's cool. Whatever people say I will never think killing without words would not be roleplay. If I was a murderous brigand in real life I would not talk, I would sneak behind the victim's back, kill, take items and sneak away. Only a killer with either sexual pleasure or revenge or any other psychological issue in mind would probably talk before killing, but a person who does it just to get money doesn't, unless there is after all some psychological issue behind it such as will to show your power over your victim.

2 - You can roleplay alone. Training magery is roleplaying if you roleplay a mage that wants to become a better mage.

4 - Sucks if everyone tries to be too interesting, no one is "normal" and it is not realistic at all. I dunno if it's just me but I've found the "HCRP" situations just boring, and I haven't known what to do because it has felt so not-me so I've fled quickly unless I've been "forced" to stay. On the other hand I hate OOC talk as well and wouldn't want to play on a non RP shard because of this.

Re: Misuse of the word roleplay

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:04 pm
by Mike
1. Writing = expression. If you express nothing, you don't roleplay. Remember, a mute would still emote.

2. Nope. Roleplaying without another part is just powergaming.

3. "Sucks if everyone tries to be too interesting, no one is 'normal' and it is not realistic at all."

You can say and do interesting things without being a half celestial/vampire illegitimate son of doctor octopus. Rp-noobs get that mixed up a lot. Wierd and overacted is not the same as interesting. On the other hand if you're asocial and plainly hate to interact with other people, you're going to be a sucky RP'er.

Re: Misuse of the word roleplay

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:21 pm
by Maximilian Lhoth
Mute people emote yes, non-talkative people who avoid social situations talk as little as possible and meet others as little as possible and do roleplay. Half-Celestial Sons of Doctor Octopus often use to even think they are some elite club of players and that others are just boring powergamers.

Again, if I roleplay a hermit mage that wants to train magery, I do indeed train magery in my house, instead of going talking and emoting at Britain Bank, and I would roleplay my hermit mage better that way. I've seen even one person who really roleplayed a ghost. Only OooOooOO and walking around. The ghost was in a guild and the title was "The Grateful Dead" or so.

Powergaming, as in training skills, is also roleplaying, if you do it in a RP way, for a clear example training especially one skill, that doesn't give you powergaming potential, just to be the best in this certain but rather useless skill, as your character is planned to be like that.

Making a Nature priest and talking cliche stuff about Gaea, when you would in reality rather just hunt giant, fiend and dragon and get max piety fast anyway is on the other hand, kinda forced roleplay with only powergaming intent in reality.

Re: Misuse of the word roleplay

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:37 pm
by Gorath Blackmind
Talking and emoting are two different things, Mike. Either you didnt know that or you're just contradicting yourself