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Let talk about role playing for a moment

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 11:51 pm
by Richard Mota
role playing means alot in many different ways on this shard ive learned over the years. role playing can be anything from a characters way of life down to the way he or she acts and talks in the game. it also stands for if it didnt happen in game dont bring it in game. theres more that pertains to the meaning of role playing but these are the majors i would like to touch on.

does everyone agree with the fact that you cant bring information youve recieved accross icq yahoo or msn into the game and bring up conflict over it?

does everyone believe that role playing should reflect your characters attitude and their way of life?

Re: Let talk about role playing for a moment

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:03 am
by Kent Strider
haha

Re: Let talk about role playing for a moment

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:05 am
by Ivan
I agree in those things but sometimes icq and suchs are just neccessary they cannot be avoided in some situations thats why they have been atleast rped.

I have nice rp for each char which is totaly different on each of them.

Re: Let talk about role playing for a moment

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:07 am
by Biggy
Anything is possible and unlimited though roleplay. Unfortunatly conflict though forums/im do affect peoples game roleplay and how they judge some people like myself hated but I am a nice guy belive it or not. I just didn't take shit from people my ideas are loney and some people mention no names I've noticed reply to things just to annoy so their epeen increases.

Re: Let talk about role playing for a moment

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:10 am
by Kenyon Ahearn
RP isnt so clear cut nor black and white, many times RP is GREATLY influenced by the mindset of the player and OOC influence is innevitable. I may hate someone IRL and therefore find it impossible to be nice ingame. Moreover, ICQ Is important, because communication in game can be impractical, similiarly for UOAM. For instance if someone tipped me off via ICQ that they was getting robbed I'd go to help.

Well enough of the indepth view on RP, you may be able to RP ingame (to the extent of being obsessed OR strange) but if someone doesnt like you OOC or has prior knowledge of up and coming actions they're not going to be a naive idiot and let them be negativley affected; for instanced ganked, robbed, looted, or simply duped.

Re: Let talk about role playing for a moment

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:41 am
by Richard Mota
Kenyon Ahearn wrote:RP isnt so clear cut nor black and white, many times RP is GREATLY influenced by the mindset of the player and OOC influence is innevitable. I may hate someone IRL and therefore find it impossible to be nice ingame. Moreover, ICQ Is important, because communication in game can be impractical, similiarly for UOAM. For instance if someone tipped me off via ICQ that they was getting robbed I'd go to help.

Well enough of the indepth view on RP, you may be able to RP ingame (to the extent of being obsessed OR strange) but if someone doesnt like you OOC or has prior knowledge of up and coming actions they're not going to be a naive idiot and let them be negativley affected; for instanced ganked, robbed, looted, or simply duped.
well i agree and i disagree but this statments is quite honestly true to me. i do not hold grudges against people ig on any of my chars even if i dont like them irl. now maybe if you say hey i dont like your blah character why dont you have them meet me here for a little rp ig. then you create a disliking for one another ig and then its ok to fight with them after the role playing is in game at that point vs just over icq?
is it ok to say hey im getting robbed in game by someone please come here and assist me. well i think it is ok to show but i feel you should role play on arrival before you attack or defend. example *looks shocked to see his friend dead* did you do this to my good friend blah blah here? you shall die for doing what you did while youre trying to res the person before attacking in return.
i dont think its good to use icq for this matter though. example. hey did you hear such and such was going to do this or that. then you continue to run up to the person in game and make rude remarks or try and attack them over something that didnt happen in game to begin with.
differences the robbing was something happening ig proir to your icq ooc chat. bringing something into the game that isnt there to begin i feel is ooc.
also i would like to add you cant hate on one character for his or her actions to one of your alt characters or that would be metagaming.

i dont know if this is all wrong or right. this is why im here today to talk about role playing and i encourage everyone to remark there opinoins on it as well. i would hope that others might can learn from us what good role playing actually is.

Re: Let talk about role playing for a moment

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:03 am
by Richard Mota
blahperson wrote:oh dear, im going to bring up an old story before we have a full out revolution, this is when it actually took effort to join the religion

quite a while ago Faith (on a different char) tried to join the religion, basically we rejected him because we didnt like his rp and his skills were too low and im pretty sure there were several complaints ooc.

(this bit may not be true i may of confused it with someone else) but im pretty sure he started complaining lots to other members to try and get a re application and try to join agian

(the rest i know is true) he went to gms to complain about everyone in the order saying ooc had nothing to do with rp and he tried very very hard to get us all piety dropped and i do also remember some very rude icq messages he sent to me, and he tried very hard to get iva banned who was the best head we ever had in my oppinion.

now im not sure but i would bet alot of money that hes done something similar here. i want to talk to faith first before i make a final oppinion on this. but keep in mind that he is the only person i ever blocked and deleted on icq. which is saying something!

heres another little post i would like to make an example of in my mind what is good and bad rp mixed with a little bit of meta gaming. this situation was handled and many didnt like it because they didnt like me. please do not get mad about this im just using it because i think its good examples.


the character that tried to join was my monk faith armstong the one that was in law and getting close to heightning. i was denied by several charactes because they did not like me on icq as a person which is ooc. then we had some like geryn that didnt like me because they new my barbarian and had run ins with him ig and so they voted aganist me which is metagaming against my monk. so ya i did contact an admin at the time because i felt others were breaking the rules which is what we should do for players that cant follow shard rules?

now please no need for nasty comments and please dont flame this post. remember i want it to stay up here so some can learn and discuss different things revolving around role play. edit- also i want to add once you get to know someone for who they actually are vs what you think of them you might become friends with that person. why did i add this statement? i used to dislike geryn in the beginning because i felt he meta gamed my monk, and i know he didnt like my barbarian due to ig rp we had. however i want to add after my little brother joined law and i spoke with him we started to get along. now i find that he is not a bad person and i actually like him and look at him as a friend.

Re: Let talk about role playing for a moment

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:08 am
by Akkarrin
sorry i dont have time to read all this at the moment but i will just say this

why would i want to play with someone who i dont like? not saying i dont like you, but its true you need to have friendship ooc as well as ig and you dont want someone going to gms every 5 minutes complaining about something done in our religion. i remember your first app i think you were lucky to get in after that.

Re: Let talk about role playing for a moment

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:12 am
by Kenyon Ahearn
Okay faith this is were I think your wrong.

In a religion, a community is Important, OOC is as much important as RP IC when it comes down to a religion, for instance people do not want someone they dislike/distrust in the religion with access to Map Pass, secures, and times when they are vulnerable. I think it is quite sad you contacted staff about being rejected, If someone didnt want me that badly in a religion (especially more than one person) I would not even consider joining. Applications to a religion are not IC, they are OOC and they are considered OOC (judgement is based off numerical skills, rp capability, personality and attitude towards others).

Re: Let talk about role playing for a moment

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:35 am
by Dyne
I dont agree with you at all. You should NOT. i mean NOT be able to carry ooc into rp situations.

I play dungeons and dragons so i can can play a Lawful Good Paladin just as good as anyone. as well as a neutral evil Thief. or a Chaotic Good Bard.

When I am In game i play my character the way he would play. I say what he would say in that situation, do what he should do.
But get me in MSN or ICQ I AM NOT BOUND BY CLASS OR ALIGNMENT RESTRICTIONS!!!!
where do you all get off basing your judgements in ooc chat. Got a chip on your shoulder? take it up IN GAME.

What i think is going on is you have a personal problem with someone and since you cant find a flaw with them in game you get it wherever you can. like ooc. i think its pathetic.