New Players + Welcoming Environment
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:14 am
With all the influx of new players lately. You can probably ask every one of them what they experienced in their first week (month?)
Robberies in Britain with no role play. Murders to base class. Plague constantly around newbie areas. Sure they don't loot. But you can't get your corpse when it's guarded by a plague bearer.. Ready for decay? Oh let me run to the healer, oh what? now the guards are plagued? now the healers plagued? oh great. Now the whole newbie area is plagued and all the NPCs are dead. Sure the plague bearers dont loot. But you essentially took out that newbies ability to play until another player comes along and decides to clean up the mess of the griefer. And that is enough to turn a new player off in their first 15.
When said newbies questioned staff and forums. They receive replies by the murderers in question with insulting posts, internet lingo pictures. Insulting internet lingo humor. And a basic "You cant hack it dont play it" welcome. I have also noticed non-chalant insults towards Americans from one poster in particular. And his comments have went by with no actions taken. Empowering said abuser to continue his insults.
It has been very noticable that a certain two staff members are close friends of these murderers in question. And one of the murderers who has achieved several un-rp kills (and we have the screenshots) suggests to turn them into these two staff members specifically.
One GM in question that I turned a screenshot into told me that he has played on Pangaea before 2002. Shard launched in 2002. No conclusive event took place to inform me if anything was ever handled, in fact. Shortly after I heard of another non-rp kill made by the same guy. SS.. Turned in. No action taken.
If you take a look around the forums, all you see is discussions regarding PVP, robberies, no RP, the ability to cut and paste other games RP and apply it to this world. People have been questioning, and not getting answers, nor results. Just getting pictures posted with icanhazcheesburger style humor. This does not show mental capacity of the staff and their rules and their RP they have laid out for us, nor the mental capacity of the people defending their no RP kills and robberies.
Unfortunately I have to say I've seen all the maturity come from the new players and robbery victims. And all the "lol zomg your so 1337 you cant handle it" coming from the current player base. And is then defended by the staff saying "turn in screenshots" and then not followed up. Not taken care of. Same event takes place next day.
The GMs seem to back up these zomg posters more then they do the new players.
The sad thing is, I was so excited to start playing on Pangaea again, happy to see new things in play, an active player base, role play, and aside from the overwhelming abundance of books, the training grounds I think is excellent for new players. With a little tweaking around starting areas and to the training grounds, it can easily attract new players. I then started bragging to friends getting them to start playing again. Every one of us has dealt with a no-rp robbery on the first week by the same person/guild, and those of us that pursed the screenshots were talking to walls.
I have to point out a certain welcome that a certain staff member gave to a husband and wife couple returning to Pangaea "if you ever you each others accounts or give each other your passwords yada yada yada banned banned banned banned" What a great "Welcome back to the shard you two! So glad to have you re-join us" No.. What in the heck did these two ever pour in your coffee that you decided to go spew on their face as a "welcome back" to the shard. That advertises amazingly welcoming and helpful staff.
So to break things down. My assumptions have been clear to me since day one. Reign of Death has something to do with Clan of Love. Clan of Love is not as "lawful" as they say. Reign of Death doesn't know what RP is. And these guilds are backed up by GM Argon and Admin Boris.
Unfortunately the best shard I've ever played on, has been peed and is not very appealing after a short time of playing here due to the current player base that seems to be in power and backed up by the staff.
The staff nor the players in question have any mature or logical defense or comments on the situations. Just zomg pictures. Some pictures go so far as to defecate on each other with animations and sexually stimulate oneself. Fantastic attraction to the shard. Not reprimand from the staff? That's great advertising to new players searching for a great shard. Boards filled with disgusting pictures, insulting posts, and arguments about robberies. And GMs saying "submit screenshots via PM" Oh. To hide the events from the general public so it can be dusted under the carpet? Great job. You should FOLLOW UP the submitted screenshots and tell us either "the robber has a screenshot to show he was in the right, and here it is" Or, "thank you for your submission, your situation has been investigated, your screenshot was accurate, the correct discipline will be taken" Currently it's all hush hush dust under the rug. Furthering the suspicion of these 2 staff members that the main robber in question refers his victims too, are in coherts.
I say we have a thread so we can post our screenshots in question on the forums, so that the players in question can discuss the situation and feel like it's been handled. Or you need to add a follow up with a screenshot coming from the robber in question. As it is now, you turn in screenshot, and you hear about the same guy doing the same thing to your friend the next day.. then the next day... then the next day.. These situations with no follow ups as it is, have not been handled, and I can guarantee you, the GM never questioned the robber about it.
I have been a player, a counselor, a high priest, ran the largest merchant guild for over a year, and a GM on this shard. I have even created things that are currently in the scripts in the shard. I know the ins and outs of the shard, I have played since 2 weeks after the official shard launch in 2002. It is really sad that the quality of some things degraded this far, and seems to be supported.
Things do need to be worked out and soon. And not just turned into a flame fest then locked. Post some real thoughts and real responses and real actions. Mature. No insults. No 1337 lingo. Post towards us the way we are posting towards you. We are being mature with our posts in question, and being replied with immature remarks. We do not wish to wax moronic, we want to find out the bottom of this and play the shard as we originally intended.
If you want, I will make another post with links to all the posts I have found where GMs hush a subject. Where Reign of Death, especially the poster Johnny Walac insults other players and posts insulting immature pictures towards them and is not reprimanded. We can make a nice collage of all the advertisements of the shards current playerbase mentality and the staff backing it up on one easy commercial for new players to suck it all up in one post. Or we can dust this thread under the rug, lock it. And let players surf the boards as they are, to find all those disgusting posts like happy land mines.
P.S.
My previous thread was locked without being answered or addressed. Meaning that I can officially RP that my character comes from the planet earth, and got sucked through his computer screen while playing ultima, and knows all about internet and internet lingo and TV.. And in fact, was playing on Pangaea when he got sucked in through the screen.
... End of Line...
(disclaimer: Everything in this post was stated by me. Nothing has been stated by others. No one asked me to post, nor did anyone tell me to include their situations. Do not hold anyone personably accountable for anything I have stated except myself.)
Robberies in Britain with no role play. Murders to base class. Plague constantly around newbie areas. Sure they don't loot. But you can't get your corpse when it's guarded by a plague bearer.. Ready for decay? Oh let me run to the healer, oh what? now the guards are plagued? now the healers plagued? oh great. Now the whole newbie area is plagued and all the NPCs are dead. Sure the plague bearers dont loot. But you essentially took out that newbies ability to play until another player comes along and decides to clean up the mess of the griefer. And that is enough to turn a new player off in their first 15.
When said newbies questioned staff and forums. They receive replies by the murderers in question with insulting posts, internet lingo pictures. Insulting internet lingo humor. And a basic "You cant hack it dont play it" welcome. I have also noticed non-chalant insults towards Americans from one poster in particular. And his comments have went by with no actions taken. Empowering said abuser to continue his insults.
It has been very noticable that a certain two staff members are close friends of these murderers in question. And one of the murderers who has achieved several un-rp kills (and we have the screenshots) suggests to turn them into these two staff members specifically.
One GM in question that I turned a screenshot into told me that he has played on Pangaea before 2002. Shard launched in 2002. No conclusive event took place to inform me if anything was ever handled, in fact. Shortly after I heard of another non-rp kill made by the same guy. SS.. Turned in. No action taken.
If you take a look around the forums, all you see is discussions regarding PVP, robberies, no RP, the ability to cut and paste other games RP and apply it to this world. People have been questioning, and not getting answers, nor results. Just getting pictures posted with icanhazcheesburger style humor. This does not show mental capacity of the staff and their rules and their RP they have laid out for us, nor the mental capacity of the people defending their no RP kills and robberies.
Unfortunately I have to say I've seen all the maturity come from the new players and robbery victims. And all the "lol zomg your so 1337 you cant handle it" coming from the current player base. And is then defended by the staff saying "turn in screenshots" and then not followed up. Not taken care of. Same event takes place next day.
The GMs seem to back up these zomg posters more then they do the new players.
The sad thing is, I was so excited to start playing on Pangaea again, happy to see new things in play, an active player base, role play, and aside from the overwhelming abundance of books, the training grounds I think is excellent for new players. With a little tweaking around starting areas and to the training grounds, it can easily attract new players. I then started bragging to friends getting them to start playing again. Every one of us has dealt with a no-rp robbery on the first week by the same person/guild, and those of us that pursed the screenshots were talking to walls.
I have to point out a certain welcome that a certain staff member gave to a husband and wife couple returning to Pangaea "if you ever you each others accounts or give each other your passwords yada yada yada banned banned banned banned" What a great "Welcome back to the shard you two! So glad to have you re-join us" No.. What in the heck did these two ever pour in your coffee that you decided to go spew on their face as a "welcome back" to the shard. That advertises amazingly welcoming and helpful staff.
So to break things down. My assumptions have been clear to me since day one. Reign of Death has something to do with Clan of Love. Clan of Love is not as "lawful" as they say. Reign of Death doesn't know what RP is. And these guilds are backed up by GM Argon and Admin Boris.
Unfortunately the best shard I've ever played on, has been peed and is not very appealing after a short time of playing here due to the current player base that seems to be in power and backed up by the staff.
The staff nor the players in question have any mature or logical defense or comments on the situations. Just zomg pictures. Some pictures go so far as to defecate on each other with animations and sexually stimulate oneself. Fantastic attraction to the shard. Not reprimand from the staff? That's great advertising to new players searching for a great shard. Boards filled with disgusting pictures, insulting posts, and arguments about robberies. And GMs saying "submit screenshots via PM" Oh. To hide the events from the general public so it can be dusted under the carpet? Great job. You should FOLLOW UP the submitted screenshots and tell us either "the robber has a screenshot to show he was in the right, and here it is" Or, "thank you for your submission, your situation has been investigated, your screenshot was accurate, the correct discipline will be taken" Currently it's all hush hush dust under the rug. Furthering the suspicion of these 2 staff members that the main robber in question refers his victims too, are in coherts.
I say we have a thread so we can post our screenshots in question on the forums, so that the players in question can discuss the situation and feel like it's been handled. Or you need to add a follow up with a screenshot coming from the robber in question. As it is now, you turn in screenshot, and you hear about the same guy doing the same thing to your friend the next day.. then the next day... then the next day.. These situations with no follow ups as it is, have not been handled, and I can guarantee you, the GM never questioned the robber about it.
I have been a player, a counselor, a high priest, ran the largest merchant guild for over a year, and a GM on this shard. I have even created things that are currently in the scripts in the shard. I know the ins and outs of the shard, I have played since 2 weeks after the official shard launch in 2002. It is really sad that the quality of some things degraded this far, and seems to be supported.
Things do need to be worked out and soon. And not just turned into a flame fest then locked. Post some real thoughts and real responses and real actions. Mature. No insults. No 1337 lingo. Post towards us the way we are posting towards you. We are being mature with our posts in question, and being replied with immature remarks. We do not wish to wax moronic, we want to find out the bottom of this and play the shard as we originally intended.
If you want, I will make another post with links to all the posts I have found where GMs hush a subject. Where Reign of Death, especially the poster Johnny Walac insults other players and posts insulting immature pictures towards them and is not reprimanded. We can make a nice collage of all the advertisements of the shards current playerbase mentality and the staff backing it up on one easy commercial for new players to suck it all up in one post. Or we can dust this thread under the rug, lock it. And let players surf the boards as they are, to find all those disgusting posts like happy land mines.
P.S.
My previous thread was locked without being answered or addressed. Meaning that I can officially RP that my character comes from the planet earth, and got sucked through his computer screen while playing ultima, and knows all about internet and internet lingo and TV.. And in fact, was playing on Pangaea when he got sucked in through the screen.
... End of Line...
(disclaimer: Everything in this post was stated by me. Nothing has been stated by others. No one asked me to post, nor did anyone tell me to include their situations. Do not hold anyone personably accountable for anything I have stated except myself.)
