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Blues, the bloody blues

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:34 am
by Maximilian Lhoth
"Blues" are spying for OoI all the time in Britain ;(

And after confiteoring and so on they claim they did nothing. They loot OoI stuff to return the stuff to OoI who died in Britain. And if they only try to do it, after getting confiteoted they claim they just "accidentally stood there" and no one can prove anything.

Is this, like, legal? If they want to participate they join OoI or form an OoI ally guild and become orange/red if they approach guarded towns of Felucca. Or stay 5 tiles away from OoI/OoI ally corpses after battles.

Re: Blues, the bloody blues

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:28 am
by Maximilian Lhoth
Addon:

It's hard to prove these things happening by taking screenshots. As it is with even simpler things already. Even harder in these cases. If not green/orange, do not touch corpses. And to avoid suspicion stay away from them. Also, same "blue" appearing on the battlefield every time a battle goes on causes suspicion, "just accidentally" finding the place where the battle occurs and "being curious".

Re: Blues, the bloody blues

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:54 am
by Ivan
I think it should be allowed to confiteor if person can even open the corpse and there is proof of it... I dont want see killing off an OoI member with hard work and 10s after that some noob has taken his stuff back to him outside of town and he's coming back.

Re: Blues, the bloody blues

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:29 am
by Alteran
from the war rules.
- If any non-guild ally, or non-religion affiliated person attacks either participating religion, the attacked religion will be allowed to defend themselves within reason.
- Though any participating non-guild ally, or non-religion affiliated person will not be permanantly dry looted, if they choose to ally themselves with a particular religion, they will be considered an enemy to their, if their Head Priest so chooses them to be
If anyone is uncertain about "What is helping, and what is not helping" feel free to refer to my outline of what is to be considered helping, and what isn't located below.

However, stipulations should be set, though on what is, and what isn't helping.

Gating - Does not count as helping as LONG as the gate is AWAY from the battle and not into one.
Blessing - Counts as helping.
Ressurecting in the middle of a battle - Counts as helping unless the ressurected immediately leaves the battlefield using his/her own means.
Cursing (druid, mage, etc) - Counts as helping.
Paralysing - Counts as helping.
Looting - Counts as helping.
Anyone wearing blessed weapons or armour of either participating religion - Counts as helping.
Curing - Counts as helping ONLY if it affects the abilities of a participating religion member to continue to fight.
Spreading Plague - Counts as helping.
Curing Plague - Does not count as helping, as anyone can get infected.
Killing horses - Counts as helping.
Leading horses away by attacking them - Counts as helping.
Throwing potions (shockwave, flashbang, etc) - Counts as helping.
Providing weapons/armour for the participants - Counts as helping.
Providing focus material for the participants - Counts as helping.
Providing horses/mounts for participants - Only counts as helping IF the person using the mount continues to fight. Does not count if the person decides to flee. Onus is on the giver to ensure the use of the beast.
Using offensive, defencive, or aiding magic of any kind for either participants - Counts as helping.
Using offensive, defencive, or aiding songs of any kind for either participants - Counts as helping.
Basically... It's common sense whether you're helping or not.
This means if they do it once , take it to the hp and he will deside.
If the hp deside and has the proff or the staff sees some one doing this, they will be turned grey/red , since they are hiding behind there status as blue .
There will be no warning what so ever .

Alteran

Re: Blues, the bloody blues

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:42 am
by Gurrnutt Venomblade
by no warning do you mean no Role playing what so ever *laughs* because there was none

Re: Blues, the bloody blues

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:04 am
by Ivan
So even getting right to move stuff in the corpse will allow law to use confiteor?

Re: Blues, the bloody blues

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:48 am
by Gorath Blackmind
Deodar wrote:by no warning do you mean no Role playing what so ever *laughs* because there was none

Yeah, saw a hell_of_a_lot roleplaying in "your" side too. When the Imperial came through the gate at the inn, I started to write something like "Hold it! You're not allowed blah blah" and when I had finished the word "Hold" I got attacked and veritased instantly. It's impossible to roleplay when the other participants dont want to do it. Just as in corpse camping with blue chars. When caught a blue char looting an imperial, I said stop, hand over the items and whatnot. And when nothing happens, you have to take action yourself. And then the flaming at ICQ comes along. Like... GG!

And if your incredible muling plan or whatever failed dont take it out on us.

Re: Blues, the bloody blues

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:49 am
by Gorath Blackmind
Gorath Blackmind wrote:
Deodar wrote:by no warning do you mean no Role playing what so ever *laughs* because there was none

Yeah, saw a hell_of_a_lot roleplaying in "your" side too. When the Imperial came through the gate at the inn, I started to write something like "Hold it! You're not allowed blah blah" and when I had finished writing the word "Hold" I got attacked and veritased instantly. It's impossible to roleplay when the other participants dont want to do it. Just as in corpse camping with blue chars. When caught a blue char looting an imperial, I said stop, hand over the items and whatnot. And when nothing happens, you have to take action yourself. And then the flaming at ICQ comes along. Like... GG!

And if your incredible muling plan or whatever failed dont take it out on us.

Re: Blues, the bloody blues

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:10 pm
by Alteran
So even getting right to move stuff in the corpse will allow law to use confiteor?
yes they got no reason to be at the corps , and if they think it unfair then donĀ“t be at the place .
It the same in real life if some one starts shooting ,every one i know is running the other way , not the way to see if things realy are as bad.
they should not even be there if you ask me.
If law loot the one that loot the corps of imp, those items should be brought to the Hp like it is sayed in the war rules.
the rules are so clear on this spot that no one should be asking this at all.

Alteran

Re: Blues, the bloody blues

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:17 pm
by Quintoz
Imo, I think it's funny how much crybaby it is that the poeple off brit has finally seen the true religon *Joke*.

But yeah I agree that it's wrong that normal poeple interfere in PvP (This goes for either side), but we try to ress blue poeple and ally them so they can go on about their day without having to worry about dying for just running past the place we fight.