More robbers?

[Demian]

If your only problem is that religions are too powerful compared to the non-religious. Then there is no problem at all since that is clearly not the case. Any decent non-religious players with trained chars can beat religious people. Have done so many times recently, AG vs. Imp as an example. I can even beat 40p Law priests on my archer and even tougher opponents on my assa. Barbarians can take any 40p priests aswell, and 50p priests are pretty much on equal grounds.

And you keep saying there are no robbers because of that (religions being OP), and that is so untrue. The reason there are no robbers is because 2 of the biggest religions are not allowed to have robber alts. If they were allowed, there would be those small robber guilds on the shard. The only problem here is the restrictions placed on us, nothing else. And like I said, even if people in Imp and Law were allowed robber chars, it changes nothing for you. You don't have to start robbing because of that. Let us worry about the OP religions coming after us if we choose to start robbing.

[Biao]

Religion whine is still small compared to robber whine. That's coming purely from experience.

If Ares and pals are fed up already, I'm quite sure something like this is a direct no-go.

This.


Can any imp even kill your baba Ivan? I guess that means baba deserves a nerf ! Or piety users deserve a boost !

[Cirius Do'Brim]

Robbers (or non-religious characters generally) aren't designed to fight vs. religions. If you can't accept that, just stay out.

This poll is about trust issues, not tome balance or whatever you guys like to use as an excuse. That just shows that you guys simply aren't ready for this change. Some day maybe, currently no.

[Demian]

Robbers (or non-religious characters generally) aren't designed to fight vs. religions. If you can't accept that, just stay out.

This poll is about trust issues, not tome balance or whatever you guys like to use as an excuse. That just shows that you guys simply aren't ready for this change. Some day maybe, currently no.

Correction: Ivan is using tome balance as an excuse.

Most people don't have a problem with that and are willing to take the risk of facing religions while robbing. Which imo isn't even that big a risk, things are pretty well balanced currently.

[Cirius Do'Brim]

That still just adds more meta accusations and fear to the game. It's not about robbing your own guys (that literally started WWIII six months ago or so) but robbing some religion alt with your robber alts. Shit just gets out of control and this really is a horrible idea. Even when we had more robbers, it was never legit. You create a group that doesn't attack buddies but *surprisingly* only robs your enemies alts.

Instead I'd recommend banning robbers completely from religions. This means life outside of religions has a clear edge, freedom to do whatever you like.

The problem isn't the current system. The system only exists because you, the players, can't handle it.

[Zaradon]

Instead I'd recommend banning robbers completely from religions.

I have always been standing on this line and always will. For exactly the same point you brought up.

[James Blackburn]

That still just adds more meta accusations and fear to the game. It's not about robbing your own guys (that literally started WWIII six months ago or so) but robbing some religion alt with your robber alts. Shit just gets out of control and this really is a horrible idea. Even when we had more robbers, it was never legit. You create a group that doesn't attack buddies but *surprisingly* only robs your enemies alts.

Instead I'd recommend banning robbers completely from religions. This means life outside of religions has a clear edge, freedom to do whatever you like.

The problem isn't the current system. The system only exists because you, the players, can't handle it.

I like this, otherwise we will simply see robbers who will continue to hunt every opposite side non religion alt

[Demian]

That still just adds more meta accusations and fear to the game. It's not about robbing your own guys (that literally started WWIII six months ago or so) but robbing some religion alt with your robber alts. Shit just gets out of control and this really is a horrible idea. Even when we had more robbers, it was never legit. You create a group that doesn't attack buddies but *surprisingly* only robs your enemies alts.

Instead I'd recommend banning robbers completely from religions. This means life outside of religions has a clear edge, freedom to do whatever you like.

The problem isn't the current system. The system only exists because you, the players, can't handle it.

Well, all those problems are due to certain players, we can't blame everyone for them and everyone deserves a chance.

And yes, if everyone can't have robber chars, then none should (religious players). But I'd rather allow it to everybody since such restrictions only make people get bored due to not being allowed to do what they want with all their chars.

Anyway, I think players could handle it. But we will never know if you just keep saying that without even trying. We could give it the famous "trial period".

[Ivan]

Demian if you are so badass with your archer, leave law start robbing and stop whining here? I just cant see that happening. Losing your OP piety powers would just make you cry, thats why you want to have robber alt while still being in law and accusing that religious and non-religious chars are on the same level.

Make it reality and prove that there is a place on pang for non-religious players beating the imperials & laws without religion support?

Somehow I cant see that happen, because it cant happen. Stop talking about things that you dont seem to know or have biased view of.

[Demian]

Demian if you are so badass with your archer, leave law start robbing and stop whining here? I just cant see that happening. Losing your OP piety powers would just make you cry, thats why you want to have robber alt while still accusing that religious and non-religious chars are on the same level.

Make it reality and prove that there is a place on pang for non-religious players beating the imperials & laws without religion support?

Somehow I cant see that happen, because it cant happen. Stop talking about things that you dont seem to know or have biased view of.

Why do I need to leave Law to be able to beat religious chars on my archer and assassin? I have done it many times without "religious support". And that is one of the main reasons why the restrictions need to be lifted, that I would have to leave Law to be allowed to do what I want to do on my alternative characters? It makes no sense I have to completely change the RP of my Priest to be allowed to rob on another char of mine.

Edit: And I never said I would personally start robbing. It should be a possibility if I want to though.