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As simple as it gets: two options - vote.

Option 1 would also mean the following changes to other magic users:
- STR of Bards from 125 to 130
- STR of Mages from 100 to 105

• 130 (Bard)
  • 105 (Necro)
    105 (Druid)
    105 (Mage)
  • • 100 (Monk)

Monks will be left to the bottom of the list, just like Priests in Fighter category. Bards will take a small boost in order for them to continue as the STR kings and Mages will recieve the same nudge so the class system's scaled properly.

- Boris

STR cap from 110 to 100 - Monks will bless as well as priests so no need for extra STR.

The one thing a Monk would need is the extra Str for the no one hits, I've made my opinion known that capping the elemental dmg on gloves would counter this.

I'm not too happy about every major change needing another, but I understand why in the end. It's too bad this came so late however, a Monk in studded armor is the only class that can justify having priest blesses with at LEAST 105 str cap.

Oh well.

Boris wrote:Monks will be left to the bottom of the list, just like Priests in Fighter category. Bards will take a small boost in order for them to continue as the STR kings and Mages will recieve the same nudge so the class system's scaled properly.

- Boris

That'd leave druids with the lowest effective str (worst bless). Is that intended that way?

EDIT: Can we get statistics on how many monks actually have over 100 str atm? I think I'm one of the few monks that has 110 str at the moment anyway

Jyrgen wrote:

Boris wrote:Monks will be left to the bottom of the list, just like Priests in Fighter category. Bards will take a small boost in order for them to continue as the STR kings and Mages will recieve the same nudge so the class system's scaled properly.

- Boris

That'd leave druids with the lowest effective str (worst bless). Is that intended that way?

You gain the extra 10 strenght from fortuno aetas. Thats like the change with Doom, loot went better, prices went up a lot more (if guild or so).

Simmo wrote:

Jyrgen wrote:

Boris wrote:Monks will be left to the bottom of the list, just like Priests in Fighter category. Bards will take a small boost in order for them to continue as the STR kings and Mages will recieve the same nudge so the class system's scaled properly.

- Boris

That'd leave druids with the lowest effective str (worst bless). Is that intended that way?

You gain the extra 10 strenght from fortuno aetas. Thats like the change with Doom, loot went better, prices went up a lot more (if guild or so).

That sentece was about druids still, who sometimes get damn +13 bless from fortuno. (Compare to +40 that necros get...)

Jyrgen wrote:That'd leave druids with the lowest effective str (worst bless). Is that intended that way?

I wouldn't call it worst - simply in the same line with other traditional casters (mage, necro).

Jyrgen wrote:Can we get statistics on how many monks actually have over 100 str atm?

I'd say the avg. is about 100. After checking all the active Monks we have - a majority rolls with under 100 STR.

- Boris

Boris wrote:

Jyrgen wrote:That'd leave druids with the lowest effective str (worst bless). Is that intended that way?

I wouldn't call it worst - simply in the same line with other traditional casters (mage, necro).
- Boris

I'm still pretty sure that druids get the worst statbless of magicusers (if we don't count 30 piety monks etc). I have a mage, monk and druid, and it makes me cry when I see how much I bless as druid

If it'd be scaled Boris-like, I'd go with something like...

100 - Monk
105 - Necro
110 - Mage
115 - Druid
130 - Bard

Even that doesn't change the fact that your blesses are small and eventually the "extra STR" is away from DEX or INT. It's no win-win in any situation.

- Boris

So why 100 and not 105?