Remove the Ratman relic hunt from Despise 3?

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Re: Remove the Ratman relic hunt from Despise 3?

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Hilda wrote:
Zaradon wrote:
Simmo wrote:drop greater poison.
1. They dont loot.
2. There's a shrine in lvl 1.
1. It's a newbie dungeon
2. There are monsters on the way back
1. Clear the mobs near shrine = win
2. Ressurect safely after dying to gpoison of giant spiders and run back to corpse by luring giant spider = win
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Zaradon wrote: 1. Clear the mobs near shrine = win
2. Ressurect safely after dying to gpoison of giant spiders and run back to corpse by luring giant spider = win
That doesn't explain why despice has to have spiders. It's just an annoyance to everyone. Not to mention to the newbies that hunt there. Saving their gear isn't as simple as it may seem to you.
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Demian wrote:
Zaradon wrote: 1. Clear the mobs near shrine = win
2. Ressurect safely after dying to gpoison of giant spiders and run back to corpse by luring giant spider = win
That doesn't explain why despice has to have spiders. It's just an annoyance to everyone. Not to mention to the newbies that hunt there. Saving their gear isn't as simple as it may seem to you.
Exactly, that's what you and me would do, but the newbie might not think of it.
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Hilda wrote:
Demian wrote:
Zaradon wrote: 1. Clear the mobs near shrine = win
2. Ressurect safely after dying to gpoison of giant spiders and run back to corpse by luring giant spider = win
That doesn't explain why despice has to have spiders. It's just an annoyance to everyone. Not to mention to the newbies that hunt there. Saving their gear isn't as simple as it may seem to you.
Exactly, that's what you and me would do, but the newbie might not think of it.
but thats how we learned XD
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Re: Remove the Ratman relic hunt from Despise 3?

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1. It's not a fun system the 10th time you look for relic.
2. It's possible to die and not be able to retrieve your things
3. Someone can take the relic
4. You don't know if level 3 was cleared recently
5. The relic can spawn on a mob that wanders into the lake, or dies an inaccessible place.

Personally, I just found it annoying that I had to clear everything just to be able to get to a slightly bigger challenge.. And half the time I wasn't able to find the relic at all, even after clearing.

And I actually agree with the spiders. It's a massive risk to fight a spider as a newb.. If you get webbed you have like 75% chance of dying because you can't cure level 2 poison yet. At least some of them could be replaced with other things.
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Ares wrote:1. It's not a fun system the 10th time you look for relic.
2. It's possible to die and not be able to retrieve your things
3. Someone can take the relic
4. You don't know if level 3 was cleared recently
5. The relic can spawn on a mob that wanders into the lake, or dies an inaccessible place.

Personally, I just found it annoying that I had to clear everything just to be able to get to a slightly bigger challenge.. And half the time I wasn't able to find the relic at all, even after clearing.

And I actually agree with the spiders. It's a massive risk to fight a spider as a newb.. If you get webbed you have like 75% chance of dying because you can't cure level 2 poison yet. At least some of them could be replaced with other things.
I think Boris will take spider removal personally, but other than that, solid reasoning.
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Re: Remove the Ratman relic hunt from Despise 3?

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I think a password (or npc interaction) would be better than the relic for the following:
- It makes you look for it the first time, which is a small effort to access lvl 3, compared to nothing;
- The first level can be spared for the real noobies;
- No one can take the password in their backpacks and log out and no monster can be stuck for a week with the wrong z with the relic inside.

It could also be levers but I think we have enough of those on all other dungeons and not enough NPC interaction.

Edit: or a puzzle including the statue/lake outside the dungeon.
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The goal was to remove those spiders a long time ago, but from what I recall, they were static / fuckup spawns.

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Re: Remove the Ratman relic hunt from Despise 3?

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ya it is annoying when rats fall into that lake or stuck somewhere. could replace the relic with something that is always available.. like X amount of lizard hides or something similar.

if the spiders are a problem, that giant slime is worse as it loots and can 2 hit newbs.

edit: or just make more relics instead of just 1
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Re: Remove the Ratman relic hunt from Despise 3?

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Despise shouldn't be as crucial to newbs as before.

The recent Newbie ground extension is pretty massive. There's plenty of mobs for everyone.

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