Ranger vs. Knight

[Boris]

As mentioned in the previous thread, the correct way is to compare Rangers with Knights and Archers with Assasins. The idea is to make these two pairs very much alike in overall strenght. Surely there are many other meters aswell for classes (incl. variety, class restricted items/commands etc.), but hopefully you get the point.

How do you see Rangers vs. Knights comparsion at the moment, wich one do you prefer and mostly why?

- Boris

[Zaradon]

Religion (PvM);


Knight

Pros
- Good survivability due to str cap
- Great survivability due to full plates/GM parry combo
- Good damage due to skills (i.e GM swords, maces)
- Ability to bless himself

Cons
- No ability for controling pets
- Weak blesses/duration on them
- High cost for mana to bless
- High cost for gears


Ranger

Pros
- Average survivability due to str cap, worse than knights.
- Average survivability due to full plates
- Average damage due to skills (swords, archery)
- Average ability to control below average pet(s)
- Various of skills to choose from, GM tracking/camping.

Cons
- Weak against spellcasters due to low amount of str
- No ability to control average pet(s)
- High cost for gear
- Weak blesses/duration on them
- High cost for mana to bless


I'd pick knight over ranger, cause rangers wont do equal damage to knights with own blesses. the Ranged skills are good for PvM, but that's about it.

[Boris]

How I see this is, that Knight have an edge over Rangers combat-wise. They have the same tactics and healing - and both wear full plates. Knights have an extra combat skill (Parrying) combined with more STR. That's Knight class in a nutshell. On the other hand, Rangers have much more variety. You get GM tracking and GM camping. Then there's 85 Hiding and 85 AL. Rangers also recieve Poisoning, wich isn't superb, but clearly better than nothing. All of these skills have direct / indirect gain in both PvP and PvM.

- Boris

[Kent Strider]

To me, it looks like the ranger would be better, as I know that it doesn't take high STR to win in PvM, the bow is bad ass, simply put, PvM wise anyway. So I see it as.. Knight = PvP and Ranger = PvM.

[Glarundis]

i'd say rangers have more variety and the bows for pvm, while knights are more tanks. bit more str and gm parrying.

[Wolfie]

Actually... uhh glar, rangers can use dragons... Straight up Ranger > Knight

[Kent Strider]

Technically that still makes Glar right Knight a bit more of a tank char.

[Wolfie]

Yeah okay.... go tank that giant ;D oh damn u cant? darn :S Ranger just got more to be successful!

[Quintoz]

Everything except Giants, Voids, Balrons, Lotas and dragons can be tanked with Longsword and shield and longsword has huge dps. I would take that and a real archer instead of a hybrid noob =).

[Simmo]

Everything except Giants, Voids, Balrons, Lotas and dragons can be tanked with Longsword and shield and longsword has huge dps. I would take that and a real archer instead of a hybrid noob =).

Phoenix, ravager, thunderbird, fiends. Awesome tank Quintoz is awesome.