Which of these Fighter classes (still) need boosting?

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Which classes (still) require boosting?

Archer
11
11%
Assassin
27
27%
Barbarian
12
12%
Knight
13
13%
Priest
6
6%
Ranger
10
10%
Warrior
20
20%
 
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Re: Which of these Fighter classes (still) need boosting?

Post by Boris »

Simply small changes to fail rates of brewing. Nothing massive.

What comes to class structure and skills, I can wash my hands concerning Assassin class.

As mentioned earlier, Warrior class is still a small question mark - but hopefully we can leave that behind soon as well. I don't believe 10/tick needs boosting as it is a big junk of HP already.

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Mm, the warrior regen rate seems a bit weak, considering that any damage taken disturbs the normal regeneration rate. Not sure about PvP, but in PvM it seems to hinder hunting quite a bit, especially against magicusers (and dragons and other breathing mobs?).
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Warriors need a tick boost its simple all the classes are spamming gheals and warriors are spamming gcures (sometimes even need 2 and 65 healing even fails a bit ill quite a lot). So while rest of the classes get +80-100 out of 2 heals warrior has cured himself and gets the last blow from someone, 65 healing doesnt heal anything anyway.
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65% and 85% don't differ much from each other (what comes to the actual healing). The average of a bandage favors 85% around 5-10HP. That's barely noticable. What comes to plain healing, 65%+regen tops 85%. Using a bandage with 65% takes around 15 seconds. You heal about 30HP per bandage. Bandage (30HP) + regen (30HP) is suddenly 60HP together.

Curing poison is clearly harder, but there are many ways to fight poison from armor to charges to potions. If curing wasn't a factor and if the regeneration couldn't be disturbed - Warriors would have it better than any class at 85% healing. If we take out the poison factor (lets say with a potion), the only thing that makes 65%+regen worse than 85% - is infact, the disturbing.

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Again in your paper too much? Taking out the regenation my assassin with 65 healing couldnt heal most of the times because being hit or having low hp. So adding that "bandage 30hp" everywhere is not valid.
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Post by Boris »

Purely based on IG testing. It doesn't matter if you have 65% or 85% healing. Both suck equally when you have high STR (Barbarian / Warrior). Both of them require over 50% of health to bind a wound successfully.

The averages were 30HP per bandage (65%) and 35HP per bandage (85%). Heal times were 15s (65%) and 10s (85%).

Honestly those differences aren't mind=blown material. 65% is under-rated, 85% is over-rated and 100% is just plain awesomeness.

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Post by Glarundis »

more like, 65 healing sucks, 85 healing sucks, 100 healing sucks, but not as much :D
in pvp those seconds seem to take sooooo long.115 healing is pure awesomeness, that's (almost) as fast as you could ever need
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Post by Boris »

Ofc the situation changes when magical clothing becomes a factor. 75% (65+10) is far away from 95% (85+10) - but that should be clear even with common sense. Point being, in base skill 65% and 85% don't differ much from each other for high STR folks. Warriors and Barbarians both lack healing. If you cut the curing factor - I would already choose a Warrior over a Barbarian. It's just a fame thing. Everyone knows Barbarians, but Warriors are (and always have been) an unpopular class.

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Re: Which of these Fighter classes (still) need boosting?

Post by Xippy »

you missed knight we can have 190 str also :oops:

Anyway for knights cant we meditate with plates, its so annoying takeing all things off when you want to bless yourself.
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Less struggle with plates is an Imperial perk.

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