Carpenter Boost - Remove the newbie Boats

[Cirius Do'Brim]

Actually the key is merging bowyers and carpenters, creating a new class: woodworker.

But as always, these things need to be talked through and introduced to the staff (preferably with good points, data and a crushing poll result).

[James Blackburn]

i would leave it at 85 lumberjacking, since obviously bowyers understand more about wood than tinkers, since they with other materials. so for carpentry stuff with those high end woods you'd have to buy the logs or the customer would simply have to go to a bowyer

pretty much thats just annoyance factor for tinkers, because tinkers allready with 85 lumber can chop every single tree on shard

[Glarundis]

Actually the key is merging bowyers and carpenters, creating a new class: woodworker.

But as always, these things need to be talked through and introduced to the staff (preferably with good points, data and a crushing poll result).

irrelevant what we call it, it's still a bowyer with 100 carpentry.

@ blackburn

didn't know that, so i guess yeah, might aswell give it 100 lumberjacking. however i wonder if too many classes with 100 lumberjacking don't make harvesting some raw materials too quickly?

[Cirius Do'Brim]

irrelevant what we call it, it's still a bowyer with 100 carpentry.

It still combines 2 markets into 1. You'll do business with arrows, staves, kindlings, decorative items, ships and whatnot. That's already quite a bunch compared to the current situation. With the current system it's like we have a blacksmith and another metal worker only crafts decorative items. It just doesn't work.

[Glarundis]

i know, that's why i think they should be merged/give bowyers 100 carpentry/whatever you wanna call it.

i was just saying that merging/giving bowyers 100 carpentry is exactly the same thing

[Oomari]

Woodworker

At primary (100%) Arms Lore, Bowcraft, Lumberjacking, Carpentry
At secondary (85%) Item Identification, Tinkering
At tertiary (65%) Detecting Hidden, Enticement, Forensic Evaluation, Resisting Spells, Tactics, Archery, Tracking, Wrestling, Camping
At penalty (40%) Animal Lore, Tailoring, Macefighting, Mining

Maximum strength: 120
Maximum intelligence: 90
Maximum dexterity: 120
Maximum combined stats (statcap): 250
Stats required to join: Str: 55, Dex: 40, Int: 30

Skill required to join: Lumberjacking 65%
Either of these skills are required as well: Bowcrafting 65%, Carpentry 65%

[Percy]

+1, problem solved.

[dwight]

Woodworker

At primary (100%) Arms Lore, Bowcraft, Lumberjacking, Carpentry
At secondary (85%) Item Identification, Tinkering
At tertiary (65%) Detecting Hidden, Enticement, Forensic Evaluation, Resisting Spells, Tactics, Archery, Tracking, Wrestling, Camping
At penalty (40%) Animal Lore, Tailoring, Macefighting, Mining

Maximum strength: 120
Maximum intelligence: 90
Maximum dexterity: 120
Maximum combined stats (statcap): 250
Stats required to join: Str: 55, Dex: 40, Int: 30

Skill required to join: Lumberjacking 65%
Either of these skills are required as well: Bowcrafting 65%, Carpentry 65%

Yes please!

[James Blackburn]

Woodworker

At primary (100%) Arms Lore, Bowcraft, Lumberjacking, Carpentry
At secondary (85%) Item Identification, Tinkering
At tertiary (65%) Detecting Hidden, Enticement, Forensic Evaluation, Resisting Spells, Tactics, Archery, Tracking, Wrestling, Camping
At penalty (40%) Animal Lore, Tailoring, Macefighting, Mining

Maximum strength: 120
Maximum intelligence: 90
Maximum dexterity: 120
Maximum combined stats (statcap): 250
Stats required to join: Str: 55, Dex: 40, Int: 30

Skill required to join: Lumberjacking 65%
Either of these skills are required as well: Bowcrafting 65%, Carpentry 65%

come on, really? carpenter/tinker/bowyer together? 85 tinkering + indy cloth can pretty much make everything, doesn't that sounds kinda em a bit too much for 1 class?

pretty much with this, i have no idea why people bother train tinkers then

[Percy]

Then take away the tinkering and replace it with something useless?