Heighten Frustration

[Zaradon]

that's nothing pfff

Ancient blacksmith talking himself.

It's not efficient training a smith after 101+ anyway.

The rates are inhumane.

[Glarundis]

i have 101.2 alchemy and i'm getting pissed off with alchemy, thousands and thousands of gheals/gpoisons and hundreds of gmanavamps/gclumsies and the likes. still no gains.i guess i'll just be done with it, use indies all the time and buy the occasional book

[Dargon]

been training it since that post still..now 80ish thousand iron and the rage is even greater in me arrrggghhhh. Its not the time, the materials ain't that easy to get + im melting them manually to get at least some iron back FUUUUUUUUU

[Glarundis]

i feel your pain. haven't had my gain yet

[Hilda]

been training it since that post still..now 80ish thousand iron and the rage is even greater in me arrrggghhhh. Its not the time, the materials ain't that easy to get + im melting them manually to get at least some iron back FUUUUUUUUU

I'll sell you my macro for hot twins (female).

[Dargon]

Don't worry guys, after 200k iron ingots i finally got my gain. All that hatred just landed on Simmo next to me

[Hilda]

Lucky you, 200k is what I used for 103.1 -> 104.7

(I've had a 30 hours arms lore gain, but that seems reasonable compared to taste id, apparently)

[Zaradon]

Spending 500k iron just to render the quality chance from

below average/above average/normal/exe/elite

to>

normal/exe/elite


I dont see a point.
If it was exe/elite then yes sure, but i presume that exe/elite comes only with esunas bless (if even that...)

[Glarundis]

again, the assumption that esuna's bless is worthy enough rite...it's not the way you guys put it

[Zaradon]

Well i dont know, but im guessing.

with 110 smithy you still get;
B. average/A. average/Normal/Exe/Elite

With 115 smithy you still get;
Normal/Exe/Elite

With 117 smithy you (should) still get;
Exe/Elite

But ofcourse, it's only assumptions and not worth the time/resources just for a tiny render.

If the % calculations would favor for better chance and render the quality far more, then it'd be far better.

For one example;

117 smithy;
30% -> exceptional
70% -> elite

115 smithy;
15% -> normal
35% -> exe
50% -> elite

But who knows? Maybe it does work like that? Does imperial have an ancient smith? No?
Well..