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Re: Discussions about the new PvP rules

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Ares wrote:Johnny, are you suffering amnesia or what?
(20:24:25) GM Ares: if he's recalling after you've clearly made your intentions clear, attack.
(20:24:31) Johnny walac: kk
Aye I know. Just making sure everyone knows. And that the rules are currently abit fuzzy on the subject.
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Re: Discussions about the new PvP rules

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Ah alright.. Well there are no rules. It's just a tool to use to make things simpler. It's not mandatory either.

The mentioning of this thing in the rules are guidelines. It isn't mandatory.
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I'd like to see .halt amended so that when you .halt, it declares "Halt!" above your character and automatically starts the 15 second period for everyone on screen.

Also, eventually, we'd like to make it so that it creates a log of all conversations around affected characters.

Furthermore, as clarification, if you run from a Halt, you can still be attacked as normal.

EDIT: The main changes are that war declarations must be approved, penalties went up for both illegal PvP and frivolous accusations, and we'll be keeping a public record of situations and punishments. I think that's it... Also, just general simplifications.
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Iktomi wrote: Furthermore, as clarification, if you run from a Halt, you can still be attacked as normal.
Just make sure that is clear on the website and it's all good.
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Iktomi wrote:
Furthermore, as clarification, if you run from a Halt, you can still be attacked as normal.

EDIT: The main changes are that war declarations must be approved, penalties went up for both illegal PvP and frivolous accusations, and we'll be keeping a public record of situations and punishments. I think that's it... Also, just general simplifications.

Thanks for clear things up.
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Can someone give a few examples with the .halt thing?

I don't get it.

Let's say Bob spots an enemy called Guy... what are the possible scenarios here.

Scenario 1 Guy runs right when he gets .halted:
Scenario 2 Guy doesn't move a muscle, when is the very first moment Bob can attack:
Scenario 3 Guy runs off on sight of enemy before Bob can even target him with .halt or talk:
Scenario 4 Guy is paralyzed from a gargoyle when Bob arrives and .halts him, Guy moves away to go halt himself away from gargoyle so he can roleplay, but doesn't make it before the 15th second:
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Does no one read what the staff posts or are you just retarded?

It's been posted 50 times already.

1. It's not mandatory to use
2. If victim runs you can attack
3. Usual rules still apply so don't use this as an excuse
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Scenario 1 Guy runs right when he gets .halted:
Scenario 2 Guy doesn't move a muscle, when is the very first moment Bob can attack:
Scenario 3 Guy runs off on sight of enemy before Bob can even target him with .halt or talk:
Scenario 4 Guy is paralyzed from a gargoyle when Bob arrives and .halts him, Guy moves away to go halt himself away from gargoyle so he can roleplay, but doesn't make it before the 15th second:
1- If he moves you can still attack him even if the 15 seconds hasnt passed except if he has mobs after him and he is trying to go to safe place
2. You rp the killing as you should. .halt doesnt mean you can kill without rp
3. use old method and yell a "halt" as before and attack as before
4. he can run to safety but after he has to stando still or you can attack....

seems easy

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Ares wrote:Does no one read what the staff posts or are you just retarded?

It's been posted 50 times already.
I had a math teacher like that. Every time someone had a question he'd call us retards and make the whole class laugh of us. 80% failed the year, and almost the 20% that passed had outside tutors. And that very same class next year had great grades with a different student. Some even followed maths.
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"1. It's not mandatory to use. Ares." It might not be mandatory but I'm sure it has a purpouse or else you wouldn't add it. I as a player would like to Understand from you the staff, what that purpouse is so I can use it best to assist both you and me, with whatever intention you had when adding such a comand.

"2. If victim runs you can attack. Ares." is contraditory to the in game .halt messages. For example "Halt! You have 15 seconds to comply", and then you can just attack after two seconds if he doesn't halt? That makes no sense.
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I had a math teacher like that. Every time someone had a question he'd call us retards and make the whole class laugh of us. 80% failed the year, and almost the 20% that passed had outside tutors. And that very same class next year had great grades with a different student. Some even followed maths.
you mean we are failing pangaea class? :shock:
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