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i'm not saying they are bad.
i have my necessary skills all maxed out, but i'm not really that good at using spells and combos, so i guess i have to learn
was just alerting for the fact they have less rite power than priest and 65 eval isn't that great

well 100 wrestling is good just so you don't waste regs on stupid creatures :P but then again you do the same with macefighting
i think if they are a combo between fighter/magic user, they could have some uses in melee

perhaps wrestling would be good with high dex, but we need high int and good str
sometimes i just wish that i could safely forget the wrestling thing knowing it'll suck at high dex just so i lower dex to a minimum in order to have my int very high for great tome/magic combos
but like this i always wonder "what if?"
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remember you can allso make gate , so you are the tools to get around fast.
There are allways + and - to any class , you want more eval , there is mage , you want veritas allso there is monk.

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Well like I said before, my monk's skills are not full yet, not to mention I suck at pvp :P
But here's what I have maxed
anatomy magery eval wrestling meditation
I suppose that if you have very high int (which will dmg all your chances of hoping for melee (dex)) it'll be very good for the spells/rites combo
also, 85 healing is nice if you really must run away from a priest and can't cast in vas mani :P
so, with high res spells (we can have 100) we can resist from mages and while we're not in the front, we deal dmg with spells/rites
I'm just not sure if those are good enough to matter something in the midst of so many priests fighting, which is why I'd have med or eval raised. I agree 85 sounds too close to 100 and mages have kind of nothing special atm.
But would be good to see us having 100 med to use rites as well as priests.
So that it goes exactly like: monk = rites + spells and priest = rites + scepter hits
So I don't see why the rite power of the caster should be less than of the priest.
Maybe I just have to fully understand my spellbook/to see if there are some good things I could come up with.
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Glarundis wrote:Well like I said before, my monk's skills are not full yet, not to mention I suck at pvp :P

Maybe I just have to fully understand my spellbook/to see if there are some good things I could come up with.

So you don't have a trained monk. And you don't understand the main power behind a monk. And you can't play a monk in PvP.

Why are you arguing in this topic when you clearly don't know what your talking about?
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Why are you arguing all over assassins topics, when there should be like 4 or 5 players max discussing there then?
I have a trained monk, but higher resist and healing would be nice. Yeah, he's not heighten, so what.
I can pvp, but I could pvp better. Or maybe i'm pvping well but it sucks so much, that it looks shit.
And tell me who knows the secret behind monk's power?If it was there for everyone to see, you'd see some monks playing no?
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Monks can have 100 meditation with ancient meditation + indy cloth. It's a lot of macroing and a lot of work, but it is possible and atleast 2 monks have already done it. Otherwise I see monk as a good class. It's not kickass, but it's an all-arounder. The best monks we have can take/challenge high piety priests. It's all a matter of combos and HC-stats. I see monks like assassins. They're ok, but when assassins get HC-stats (base dex to 150) they become crazy. When monks train int up to 150+, they become crazy aswell. Especially if they know the right combos in PvP/PvM.

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Glarundis wrote:Why are you arguing all over assassins topics, when there should be like 4 or 5 players max discussing there then?
I have a trained monk, but higher resist and healing would be nice. Yeah, he's not heighten, so what.
I can pvp, but I could pvp better. Or maybe i'm pvping well but it sucks so much, that it looks shit.
And tell me who knows the secret behind monk's power?If it was there for everyone to see, you'd see some monks playing no?
1. I am arguing in the Assassins topic because I know what i'm talking about.
2. You just said you sucked in PvP. But now you -can- PvP? Decide before posting.
3. The secret behind monk's power is the player.

I do agree 100% with Kolpitor that Monk could use a boost. They don't suck. They ain't awsome. But they are definitively useful in PvM and PvP.
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i have personal seen , Elya from law killing 3 chars on his own , with realy no problem, yes he play insanly well , but not all class are there to rule the world .
If i have to chouse i rather have 1 monk next to my priest , then a nother priest if you are pvp 2 priest.

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I suck, compared to those who are really good. I've killed before in pvp and have died before, so..
Alteran, elya was law :P
I wish I could be like elya and pwn. the player did play well hehe
And are you sure he wasn't protected by guards or something? Because a monk can't take dmg from 3 players at the same time in open field.
Tbh in heighten I guess i'd choose magery med, maybe even eval lol. But then again, if priests do that, they get 115. So they're still better..
True, assassins can be good with 150dex, but have you seen their statcap?That leaves assassins to have 90str 5 int?wtf is that?We simply can't maintain 5int with 100intcap
And yes, monks can have 160int, but that leaves them with 90str 20 dex. Pretty hard considering you use tracking a lot, and then you may just forget you have melee skills at all.
But hey, they'll be good then, true
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"And are you sure he wasn't protected by guards or something? Because a monk can't take dmg from 3 players at the same time in open field."

I believe waiting for the right moment is called being smart.
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