Sad thing is; I can change Sweden into Netherlands and the story fits 100% as well.Mike wrote:Immigrants get a ton of benefits in my country, mostly related to welfare. For example, an immigrant gets paid for going to a state sponsored school to learn Swedish, and they get a bonus if they actually pass the exam at the end. But companies also get tax cuts for hiring immigrants, there are new suggestions being made to hand out free drivers licenses to immigrants, tax free zones in immgrant-heavy areas to stimulate growth and so on. Basically Swedes are discriminated against by our own government. I don't think it's that strange though, the multi cultural society has to be constantly supported by the political establishment in order to exist.Andoriel wrote:"This assumes you're not an immigrant, they get plenty of benefits. Our government is pretty anti-white." I dont get it. This assumes your not an imigrant in order to pay welfare? If so how come govenrment is "anti-white". And define "white"
As for a white person, I think most of us know what that is.
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Yeah, the system sure ain't fair that way.
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Hahaha.. That was actually pretty awesome!Darian Darkmind wrote:Yeah, the system sure ain't fair that way.
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lol old SNL skit, but still awesome, almost as good as Mother Lover with Andy Samberg and Justin Timberlake.
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Honestly mike if by imigrants you mean people that aplied to imigration offices and get accepted, then the education and welfare part is legid. After all you need to assimilate these people into sweedish society and teaching them the language is first step to accomplish this.
İmigrant by legal status means future citizen, a tax payer in present sence( not sure if this aplies to sweeden). As for companies geting tax cut for hiring imigrant...that part is fucked up. In canada by law companies have to hire certain percentige(maybe 30% not sure) of its workforce as Visible minorities as well as women, disable workers. This makes sence in a way that it does create diversity in workplaces and stops the " white" dominance. Ofc the law leaves companies the choice of picking How to place those minorities in the company, which usualy end up placing the minorities in basic service/labor jobs while white canadians get the management jobs.
But giving them economic advantage of tax cuts for hiring them? Thats just messed up bro, that needs to go...
İ asked what you mean by white because term white in here allso used as privilaged upper middle class people. I think you just mean skin collor: white people that owns and lived in the country for centuries.
Ps. By canadian steriotyping Turks are considered Caucasion on paper(they put us same category as greeks, albanians and bosnians), and we are not a visible minority(since turkish canadian population is low) sooo its hard for me to apply to jobs as minority without lying
İmigrant by legal status means future citizen, a tax payer in present sence( not sure if this aplies to sweeden). As for companies geting tax cut for hiring imigrant...that part is fucked up. In canada by law companies have to hire certain percentige(maybe 30% not sure) of its workforce as Visible minorities as well as women, disable workers. This makes sence in a way that it does create diversity in workplaces and stops the " white" dominance. Ofc the law leaves companies the choice of picking How to place those minorities in the company, which usualy end up placing the minorities in basic service/labor jobs while white canadians get the management jobs.
But giving them economic advantage of tax cuts for hiring them? Thats just messed up bro, that needs to go...
İ asked what you mean by white because term white in here allso used as privilaged upper middle class people. I think you just mean skin collor: white people that owns and lived in the country for centuries.
Ps. By canadian steriotyping Turks are considered Caucasion on paper(they put us same category as greeks, albanians and bosnians), and we are not a visible minority(since turkish canadian population is low) sooo its hard for me to apply to jobs as minority without lying
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Obviously if we decide to accept immigrants we have to be responsible for keeping them alive and healthy, but the discrepancy between ordinary welfare and the money they get is substansial.Andoriel wrote:Honestly mike if by imigrants you mean people that aplied to imigration offices and get accepted, then the education and welfare part is legid. After all you need to assimilate these people into sweedish society and teaching them the language is first step to accomplish this.
The immigrants that I consider problematic are third world country immigrants, and they are usually refugees that become permanent residents. On average it takes 7 years for an immigrant to get a job in Sweden, and that statistic includes Danes, Finns and other people who usually have a job in Sweden already when they immigrate. So the calculation for third world immigrants is way worse.Andoriel wrote: İmigrant by legal status means future citizen, a tax payer in present sence( not sure if this aplies to sweeden). As for companies geting tax cut for hiring imigrant...that part is fucked up. In canada by law companies have to hire certain percentige(maybe 30% not sure) of its workforce as Visible minorities as well as women, disable workers. This makes sence in a way that it does create diversity in workplaces and stops the " white" dominance. Ofc the law leaves companies the choice of picking How to place those minorities in the company, which usualy end up placing the minorities in basic service/labor jobs while white canadians get the management jobs.
The idea of diversity is interesting. I would prefer to have as few minorities as possible to prevent the kind of indentured servitude you mentioned, when such people are flooded into the system with the ultimate intention of placing them on low-paying jobs. It hurts the majority population too even though short sighted liberal greed prevents people from realizing it. Lower wages, more immigration, more unemployment and solidarity goes down the drain as a wealthy upper middle class no longer sees the point of paying taxes to keep the nation going. The solution you presented is more along the lines of cultural marxism, which I do not care for.
That's what I meant, yeah. I didn't understand the question - whites are not a subcultural group over here yet :)Andoriel wrote:İ asked what you mean by white because term white in here allso used as privilaged upper middle class people. I think you just mean skin collor: white people that owns and lived in the country for centuries.
Turks are part of the Caucasian race according to Anthropology, so by that definition we belong to the same race.Andoriel wrote:Ps. By canadian steriotyping Turks are considered Caucasion on paper(they put us same category as greeks, albanians and bosnians), and we are not a visible minority(since turkish canadian population is low) sooo its hard for me to apply to jobs as minority without lying :lol:
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haven't been ar5ed to read the topic but i saw the word immigrant. considering myself left wing, still anti immigration, without being "perussuomalainen" ("true finn") or national socialist.
simple:
to struggle to save the world, also the world outside finland is a fine idea and a good principle, but why do it in a mor0nic, unpredictable and most of all highly cost-ineffective way when the resources are *always* limited
i am politically homeless with the exception of pirate party, which has lots of asperger guys etc :p
a mixture of "true finn" (persu) and "leftist youth" (vanu) type guy. too persu to be a vanu, too vanu to be a persu...
http://www.revleft.com/vb/can-someone-a ... 9e1e03e317&
i wish someone found it funny
simple:
to struggle to save the world, also the world outside finland is a fine idea and a good principle, but why do it in a mor0nic, unpredictable and most of all highly cost-ineffective way when the resources are *always* limited
i am politically homeless with the exception of pirate party, which has lots of asperger guys etc :p
a mixture of "true finn" (persu) and "leftist youth" (vanu) type guy. too persu to be a vanu, too vanu to be a persu...
http://www.revleft.com/vb/can-someone-a ... 9e1e03e317&
yes i was lulzing, someone mentioned it in icq so i pushed the limits of open discussion :--)Mike wrote:Legalize Cannabis in Finland and keeps the lulz coming.
i wish someone found it funny
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You're a guy with a lot of spare time and high intelligence, read up on the Frankfurt school and cultural marxism.
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university "pussy" leftist youth is something that has the tendency to make me see red.Mike wrote:You're a guy with a lot of spare time and high intelligence, read up on the Frankfurt school and cultural marxism.
oi! not fags. without being anti gay. just the opposite. fag here means university pussy leftist youth. not a homosexual person.
and not wanting to stereotypize, but sadly this is more often than not the case
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That is not what this is about at all, just google it. Cultural marxism is basically a jewish school of thought that aims to eliminate the Authoritarian personality type in western european nations by various political and financial methods.Maximilian Lhoth wrote:university "pussy" leftist youth is something that has the tendency to make me see red.Mike wrote:You're a guy with a lot of spare time and high intelligence, read up on the Frankfurt school and cultural marxism.
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