STONING - everyone read

[Monad]

When the strict looting rules was still in place more than +6 months ago, we had also more strict control on the stoning and it required our permission to stone someone, but all these restrictions from stoning were removed already 6 months ago when we allowed all but magical clothing / jewerly with skill abilities looting.

To avoid this all hassle about the stoning assumptions and the dozens of random different versions what players seems to have in their mind, here is the section from the rules which haven't been changed since 2002. Read it and understand it, thank you.

Any claims about stoning should be easier or should be changed in anyway is useless. It's easily doable and nothing is preventing you from stoning if you read and undestand the text below. This same procedure have been used throughout the Pangaea history and so it will be used.

Magic prisons

If you are going to imprison someone you must have a very good role play reason to do so, since this rite could prevent your victim from players for quite a long time. It is not allowed to use this on newbie’s unless you have a very good reason (If someone creates a new character just to badmouth you etc.). When you imprison someone you have to provide screenshots of your role play, just like when you kill another player. Also your role play reason has to be very good before this kind of punishment is allowed, not just someone has killed you once or looted from a critter you killed. Manhunts does not change the rules for imprisonment, you will still need to make it clear for the victim why you are going to imprison him/her, even if it required you paralyse the victim while you explain your reasons.
After the imprisonment, you are obligated to upload enough screenshots , to prove proper role play, and state your reason for the imprisonment. The reason for the imprisonment has to at least be stated in the description of the file, but preferable shown on the screenshots. You should upload the screenshots as fast as possibly, to easy the GM’s workload, but never later then one hour after the imprisonment.

[Athan01]

What is the maximum time you can spend inside the prisons

[Monad]

Max is 14 days.

[Johnny Walac]

And from 01/07 - 12 It's illegal for any religion to unstone a robber?

[Monad]

And from 01/07 - 12 It's illegal for any religion to unstone a robber?

Correct.

[Johnny Walac]

And from 01/07 - 12 It's illegal for any religion to unstone a robber?

Correct.

Then why are people complaining?

Thanks for your answers.

[Monad]

From another topic, but I think this belongs here rather:

Single SS of stating their crimes is enough? I would like to know how previous players as of late attempted stoning illegally, so we know how to do so legally.

I have another idea to suggest if there is no PvP free dungeons/zones. Player implemented man hunts. There are no real robberies, it's more or less gate in to track state RP for SS, then leave to logout.

It's hard to even imagine a working system and work out all the abuse angles, but it's something that should be discussed.

If you have ideas to prevent the robbers logging out straight after robbery, bring them on.
What comes to stoning being illegal or legal, it's very hard to draw a clear line because it's impossible to supervise how many times someone have attacked you or your religion for example. However with your own judgement remember these 3 main requirements what needs to be met:

• 1. Victim must have history of repeated attacks/harrassing and long withstanding enemy. Single attacks here and there is not enough RP reason for stoning.
  2. Always make the RP before casting the rite. Recent illegal case was that the priest started to cast the rite first, then did the RP while casting, that is not allowed.
  3. Screenshot of the procedure which must be uploaded within an hour of the stoning to the webpage.

[Vaux27]

It's simple, stoning is a rare situation and we all know this. Robbing is much easier to type out and coordinate in time before victims help arrives, while stoning takes casting time and easily many more lines. It's something we'll have to deal with, but I'm skeptical this will counteract robberies and keep players active.

I appreciate this being cleared though Monad, sorry for the confusion.

[xHarlequinx]

A few people have raised concerns the new stoning rules due to the fact it is effectively stopping the game 100% for another person. It's just kind of poor design generally speaking and should really only be reserved for GMs IMO. I like stoning, I think a week or two-weeks is a reasonable timer, but there being nothing you can do about it seems a bit harsh.

I’d love to see a one-use item that could free people from stones. Ideally it would drop at the frequency of say a runic skinning knife and would only drop for characters with the robber flag (thereby stopping people from muling it from their non-robber alts).

This would allow robbers to have the possibility of releasing each other and would encourage more hunting by robbers (reducing the complaints about log on – rob – log off)

[Biggs]

A few people have raised concerns the new stoning rules due to the fact it is effectively stopping the game 20%* for another person. It's just kind of poor design generally speaking and should really only be reserved for GMs IMO. I like stoning, I think a week or two-weeks is a reasonable timer, but there being nothing you can do about it seems a bit harsh.

*1 slot out of 5!

Edited your comment for you to the correct statement. you can thank me later