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Re: Robbing.

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Jam Rave wrote:You get kicks for risking to lose your gear if you die right?
Yes I do. But rather eunuch robbers than stoning. I would like to see super robbers without any crap like stoning/malediction/wronging! I would not make one. I would hunt them alongside mightiest dragons, like Borat hunts the jew alongside deer!

Amount of PvP is zero. When a player starts, the player likes to train, roleplay, hunt, learn new hunting techniques.. where this and that monsters spawns and how to kill it. When the player gets old and knows it all, it becomes too routine and the (average male, doesn't apply to females - I know only 2 females that played a priest at all, and neither one really PvPed) player starts to become PvP hungry. At the moment Pangaea is 50% PvM, 49% RP, 1% PvP, even though majority of players are old.

Imperial is too small to attack Britain at the moment, sadly.

The decision is up to admins, I won't blame them if they feel lazy, they host and manage the shard anyway, and I'm happy now that stoning is not allowed, even tho the PvP scene of Pangaea has a little problem.
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Jayson wrote:Get rid of the stupid wrong thing and i'll rob for gold and gems :lol:
wanna go wait outside of destard for dragon hunters ;)
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Jayson wrote:Get rid of the stupid wrong thing and i'll rob for gold and gems :lol:
And stone and malediction and I'll come out of my locked hut so you can rob me without malleus!
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It's pretty hard to stone, in my opinion. Conditions have to be just right, and it's hard to pull off. That being said, even if we were allowed to use Imprisonment, I would not allow its use anyways. There's no point in using it, and I've never been much for ruining other's game play. Gives me something to do, and there IS a bit of an adrenal rush when you see "You have received a Mayday!" And the arrow points that you're not far away...

Personally, Malediction would be more effective if its use were slightly random. Let's say, instead of the chance to change gender, or the chance to skill or stat drop, its effects are random as allowed by your religion's particular tome.

Example: Instead of Skill drop you get - Banishment. Instead of Gender change you get - I was thinking Polymorph, but that would suck. So how bout... VERY slim chance of doing the equivalent of a Druid Curse (duration based, not permanent).

Obviously, there are ways this could be used as Abuse, such as people spamming it, hense why there could be tweaks done to it. Like... Casting time could be increased. Mana cost would be enormous, and the EXACT same between religions. Could even have a high Meditation roll/piety roll randomizer to make it a bitch to cast.

You're all reading this wondering: "What's the point of it, then?" Simple... It would no longer need to be controlled, and it would be simple to have the effects of Imprisonment be one of those Rare effects this rite can give.

Give it a thought or two.
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On another note, one of the effects such as randomly dropping an item from your pack, or destroying an item... Change it to auto ".undress" lol.

In the middle of a fight that would be a BITCH. Or have it destroy focus, I dunno.
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<< Imprisonment be one of those Rare effects this rite can give. >>

Personally I would rather see whole PvP banned than seeing imprisonment, or anything only undoable by religions or gamemasters (excluding altar corruption as it's fully religion vs religion thing and I've seen no complaints yet) again, even though I love PvP. It's a principle. The sole purpose of my existence since '07 has been campaigning for the complete and permanent removal of stoning and malediction. =P
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Either that or give Imprisonment a 15-30 minute duration. Long enough to be... Nevermind, Imprisonment would be spammed, then
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3 days imprisonment max would be fine IMO, but it should still have the same strict rules as it had before. Of course I would maybe getting stoned alot, but then at least the fun of robbing could return. Right now robbing is no fun because as well as I try to roleplay Holger NO ONE is scared, simply cause they KNOW they can not lose any valuable items.
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Maximilian Lhoth wrote:Personally I would rather see whole PvP banned
Actually at the moment this IS quite much the case.... PvP banned. In practice.
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Well it's not so much that, though. I mean, the onus should be on the robber what he takes. What I mean is, if I were to make a robber, I would not want to kill someone, then loot their indy's and invuls, and elites... *Shrugs* It's when people are dicks while doing it is where it kills the playability. If you can STILL allow full looting WITHOUT sacrificing roleplay, I would personally love to see it.

Unfortunately, to have either, something must be sacrificed. If full looting is allowed, you'll suddenly have a repeat of Nox, where they see someone wearing good s**t, say "halt" in a font colour that's impossible to see with the naked eye, then "Oh, not gonna talk to us are you? DIE!" All of you Nox supporters that are gonna flame this, don't bother, it's happened a LOT with the exception of a FEW people actually putting slightly more effort into it.

What will happen is greed will overrule reason, and instead of high quality RP, you'll have robbers verily whacking off to the Paperdoll of someone wearing cloths and auros.

Thoughts of "Hmm, I wonder how good at RP he will be" will quickly degenerate into "please please PLEASE run..." for the simple fact that 1) they want the items, 2) cba to be there RPing with someone until the Order of Law shows up and ganks them.

I both agree and disagree with having a loot limit. I agree that a limit to what should be looted should exist, but disagree with that which is allowed to be looted. Perhaps increase the list of what can be looted, and of coarse limit cloths and elites as Non Lootable.

Once again, the onus is on the robber who he/she robs. I mean, personally, if I were to see a noob hunting in Despise, I would leave him alone, rather than "put the fear of God into him" and in the process make him quit playing.

*Shrugs*
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